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utube上的货运帆船,老式渔船帆船,不少有意思的船型,造船也没必要为了追求速度盯着竞技类船型造啊
Traveling on Sailing Cargo Ship Kwai to the Most Remote Islands in the World.mp4.jpg
videoplayback.webm_20200606_064807.182.jpg










桅杆很有意思,便宜坚固
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Xk4y1B7H9/

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14g4y187oN/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1VJ41197np/

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1i54y1B7B6/桅杆很有意思,便宜坚固





ying99 楼主 来自: 希腊
本帖最后由 ying99 于 2020-6-14 03:13 编辑

cutty_sark_clipper_1869
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutty_Sark

Länge über alles (Lüa): 85,35 m (280' (ft.))
Länge Galion–Heck (Rumpflänge): 64,77 m (212' 6")
Länge an Deck (LaD): 62,8 m (206')
Länge in der KWL (LWL): 60,2 m (197' 6")
Länge zwischen den Loten (LzL, LPp): 58,5 m (192')
Breite: 11 m (36')
Raumtiefe: 6,7 m (22' 6") (Schiffsinnenmaß)
Seitenhöhe: 7,8 m
Tiefgang: 6,4 m (21')
Vermessung: 963 BRT (Bruttoregistertonnen) / 921 NRT (Nettoregistertonnen)
Verdrängung: 2.700 tons / 2.747 t (Schiffsmasse 1.079 tons/1.096 t inkl. Ladung) max. bei 6,4 m Tiefgang
Ladekapazität/Tragfähigkeit: 1.672 tons / 1.700 t (1 tn.l. = 1,016 t) max.
Segelfläche: 3.000 m² (43: 16 Rah-, 4 Stag-, 4 Vor-, 18 Leesegel, 1 Besan); Länge Großrah: 23,7 m (78'); 1885 Reduktion auf 24 Segel ohne Lee- und Skysegel
Masthöhe: 46,3 m (152'; Masttop–Deck), später 44,5 m (145' 9"); Länge des einziehbaren Klüverbaumes (inkl. Bugspriet) 18,3 m (60')
Hilfsmaschinen: keine
Baukosten: £ 20.223 (M 404.460 = $ 96.300; heutiger Wert (2014): 10.000.000 GBP)
Besatzung: 28–35 Mann
Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 17,15 kn
Bestes Etmal: 363 sm

Cutty_Sark_clipper_ship.jpg QQ图片20200614025539.png 线型图,一张15m,压缩上传




Cutty Sark was ordered by shipping magnate John Willis, who operated a shipping company founded by his father. The company had a fleet of clippers and regularly took part in the tea trade from China to Britain. Speed was a clear advantage to a merchant ship, but it also created prestige for the owners: the 'tea race' was widely reported in contemporary newspapers and had become something of a national sporting event, with money being gambled against a winning ship. In earlier years, Willis had commanded his father's ships at a time when American designed ships were the fastest in the tea trade, and then had owned British designed ships, which were amongst the best available in the world but had never won the tea race. In 1868 the brand new Aberdeen built clipper Thermopylae set a record time of 61 days port to port on her maiden voyage from London to Melbourne and it was this design that Willis set out to better.[8][9]
It is uncertain how the hull shape for Cutty Sark was chosen. Willis chose Hercules Linton to design and build the ship but Willis already possessed another ship, The Tweed, which he considered to have exceptional performance. The Tweed (originally Punjaub) was a frigate designed by Oliver Lang based on the lines of an old French frigate, built in Bombay for the East India Company as a combination sail/paddle steamer. She and a sister ship were purchased by Willis, who promptly sold the second ship plus engines from The Tweed for more than he paid for both. The Tweed was then lengthened and operated as a fast sailing vessel, but was considered too big for the tea runs. Willis also commissioned two all-iron clippers with designs based upon The Tweed, Hallowe'en and Blackadder. Linton was taken to view The Tweed in dry dock.
Willis considered that The Tweed's bow shape was responsible for its notable performance, and this form seems to have been adopted for Cutty Sark. Linton, however, felt that the stern was too barrel shaped and so gave Cutty Sark a squarer stern with less tumblehome. The broader stern increased the buoyancy of the ship's stern, making it lift more in heavy seas so it was less likely that waves would break over the stern, and over the helmsman at the wheel. The square bilge was carried forward through the centre of the ship.[8][10] Cutty Sark was given masts that followed the design of The Tweed, with similar good rake and the foremast on both placed further aft than usual.[11]
A contract for Cutty Sark's construction was signed on 1 February 1869 with the firm of Scott & Linton, which had only been formed in May 1868. Their shipyard was at Dumbarton on the River Leven on a site previously occupied by shipbuilders William Denny & Brothers. The contract required the ship to be completed within six months at a contracted price of £17 per ton and maximum weight of 950 tons. This was a highly competitive price for an experimental, state-of-the-art vessel, and for a customer requiring the highest standards. Payment would be made in seven instalments as the ship progressed, but with a penalty of £5 for every day the ship was late. The ship was to be built to Lloyd's A1 standard and her construction was supervised on behalf of Willis by Captain George Moodie, who would command her when completed. Construction delays occurred when the Lloyd's inspectors required additional strengthening in the ship.[12]
Work on the ship was suspended when Scott and Linton ran out of money to continue. Rather than simply liquidate the company, an arrangement was made for Denny's to take over the contract and complete the ship, which was finally launched on 22 November 1869 by Captain Moodie's wife. The ship was moved to Denny's yard to have her masts fitted, and then on 20 December towed downriver to Greenock to have her running rigging installed. In the event, completing the ship meant the company's creditors were owed even more money than when work had first been halted.[13]
Cutty Sark's length was 212 feet 5 inches (64.74 m), with a draft of 21 feet (6.40 m) and a deadweight of 921 tons.[14] Broadly, the parts of the ship visible above the waterline were constructed from East India teak, while American rock elm was used for the ship's bottom. The stem (15 in × 15 in (38 cm × 38 cm)) and sternpost (16.5 in × 15 in (42 cm × 38 cm)) were of teak while the rudder was of English oak. The keel was replaced in the 1920s with one constructed from 15 in (38 cm) pitch pine.[15] The deck was made of 3.5 in (8.9 cm) thick teak while the 'tween deck was 3 in (7.6 cm) yellow pine. The keel (16.5 in × 15 in (42 cm × 38 cm)) had on either side a garboard strake (11 in × 12 in (28 cm × 30 cm)) and then 6 in (15 cm) planking decreasing to 4.75 in (12.1 cm) at 1/5 the depth of the hold. Teak planking began at approximately the level of the bilge stringer. The hull was covered by Muntz metal sheeting up to the 18 ft (5.5 m) depth mark, and all the external timbers were secured by Muntz metal bolts to the internal iron frame.[15] The wrought-iron[16] frame was an innovation in shipbuilding. It consisted of frames (vertical), beams (horizontal) and cross bracing (diagonal members).[17]
The diagonally-braced iron frame made for a strong, rigid ship;[17] diagonal members prevent racking (shearing, where frame rectangles become parallelograms).[18] Less working and leaking of the hull meant less crew time spent pumping, allowing more time to be spent on changes of sail.[citation needed] The wrought-iron-framed hull also took up less cargo space than an all-wood hull would have done.[17] The Muntz metal sheeting reduced fouling of Cutty Sark's hull;[16] with a cleaner hull, she could sail faster.[19]

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2020-6-14 02:59
洪运来 来自: 黑龙江
谢谢你的分享,非常不错啊,但咱现在很少有人有实力有精力造这种木头船呀,除非博物馆和真喜欢木船的
2020-8-10 18:23
活着,就是要创造奇迹!
泡泡鱼 来自: 广东广州
看过视频,很喜欢这艘船。就是船大,要多人操作才行!
2021-3-7 21:28
2021-3-9 10:06
这个船是纵帆船,需要的人手并不多。 历史上最大的7桅纵帆船Thomas W. Lawson,在人数最多的时候才19人,而排水量高达1万4千吨。 而Cutty Sark是一艘全装帆船(以横帆为主),操纵横帆的时候需要人爬上横桁才能  详情 回复
2021-3-8 17:26
多备份点自动化设备,5-6个人绰绰有余  详情 回复
风语塔拉 来自: 内蒙古通辽
很漂亮的图
2021-3-8 11:32
ying99 楼主 来自: 四川成都
泡泡鱼 发表于 2021-3-7 21:28
看过视频,很喜欢这艘船。就是船大,要多人操作才行!

多备份点自动化设备,5-6个人绰绰有余
2021-3-8 17:26
begun 来自: 上海
本帖最后由 begun 于 2021-3-9 10:15 编辑
泡泡鱼 发表于 2021-3-7 21:28
看过视频,很喜欢这艘船。就是船大,要多人操作才行!

这个船是纵帆船,需要的人手并不多。
历史上最大的7桅纵帆船Thomas W. Lawson(有蒸汽机辅助,但没推进器),在人数最多的时候才19人,而排水量高达1万4千吨。

而Cutty Sark是一艘全装帆船(以横帆为主),操纵横帆的时候需要人爬上横桁才能收放帆布,这样非常耗人手。它2100吨的排水量,多的时候有35人来伺候。想象一下,如果按尺寸放大到Thomas W. Lawson那么大,得上百人操纵。

不过这艘KWAI小货船上的人数相对并不少。。。当然大部分时间都是闲得发慌,只有卸货的时候才用得到他们。
现代可以用电力来辅助操纵,比古代方便很多。
2021-3-9 10:06
LIUCHANGHONG 来自: 辽宁大连
感谢分享!涨知识了~
2021-10-8 15:37
*Keep Calm and Carry On

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本帖最后由 徐鹏 于 2022-11-15 12:23 编辑

utube上的货运帆船,老式渔船帆船,不少有意思的船型,造船也没必要为了追求速度盯着竞技类船型造啊
Traveling on Sailing Cargo Ship Kwai to the Most Remote Islands in the World.mp4.jpg
videoplayback.webm_20200606_064807.182.jpg










桅杆很有意思,便宜坚固
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Xk4y1B7H9/

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14g4y187oN/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1VJ41197np/

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1i54y1B7B6/桅杆很有意思,便宜坚固





本帖最后由 ying99 于 2020-6-14 03:13 编辑

cutty_sark_clipper_1869
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutty_Sark

Länge über alles (Lüa): 85,35 m (280' (ft.))
Länge Galion–Heck (Rumpflänge): 64,77 m (212' 6")
Länge an Deck (LaD): 62,8 m (206')
Länge in der KWL (LWL): 60,2 m (197' 6")
Länge zwischen den Loten (LzL, LPp): 58,5 m (192')
Breite: 11 m (36')
Raumtiefe: 6,7 m (22' 6") (Schiffsinnenmaß)
Seitenhöhe: 7,8 m
Tiefgang: 6,4 m (21')
Vermessung: 963 BRT (Bruttoregistertonnen) / 921 NRT (Nettoregistertonnen)
Verdrängung: 2.700 tons / 2.747 t (Schiffsmasse 1.079 tons/1.096 t inkl. Ladung) max. bei 6,4 m Tiefgang
Ladekapazität/Tragfähigkeit: 1.672 tons / 1.700 t (1 tn.l. = 1,016 t) max.
Segelfläche: 3.000 m² (43: 16 Rah-, 4 Stag-, 4 Vor-, 18 Leesegel, 1 Besan); Länge Großrah: 23,7 m (78'); 1885 Reduktion auf 24 Segel ohne Lee- und Skysegel
Masthöhe: 46,3 m (152'; Masttop–Deck), später 44,5 m (145' 9"); Länge des einziehbaren Klüverbaumes (inkl. Bugspriet) 18,3 m (60')
Hilfsmaschinen: keine
Baukosten: £ 20.223 (M 404.460 = $ 96.300; heutiger Wert (2014): 10.000.000 GBP)
Besatzung: 28–35 Mann
Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 17,15 kn
Bestes Etmal: 363 sm

Cutty_Sark_clipper_ship.jpg QQ图片20200614025539.png 线型图,一张15m,压缩上传




Cutty Sark was ordered by shipping magnate John Willis, who operated a shipping company founded by his father. The company had a fleet of clippers and regularly took part in the tea trade from China to Britain. Speed was a clear advantage to a merchant ship, but it also created prestige for the owners: the 'tea race' was widely reported in contemporary newspapers and had become something of a national sporting event, with money being gambled against a winning ship. In earlier years, Willis had commanded his father's ships at a time when American designed ships were the fastest in the tea trade, and then had owned British designed ships, which were amongst the best available in the world but had never won the tea race. In 1868 the brand new Aberdeen built clipper Thermopylae set a record time of 61 days port to port on her maiden voyage from London to Melbourne and it was this design that Willis set out to better.[8][9]
It is uncertain how the hull shape for Cutty Sark was chosen. Willis chose Hercules Linton to design and build the ship but Willis already possessed another ship, The Tweed, which he considered to have exceptional performance. The Tweed (originally Punjaub) was a frigate designed by Oliver Lang based on the lines of an old French frigate, built in Bombay for the East India Company as a combination sail/paddle steamer. She and a sister ship were purchased by Willis, who promptly sold the second ship plus engines from The Tweed for more than he paid for both. The Tweed was then lengthened and operated as a fast sailing vessel, but was considered too big for the tea runs. Willis also commissioned two all-iron clippers with designs based upon The Tweed, Hallowe'en and Blackadder. Linton was taken to view The Tweed in dry dock.
Willis considered that The Tweed's bow shape was responsible for its notable performance, and this form seems to have been adopted for Cutty Sark. Linton, however, felt that the stern was too barrel shaped and so gave Cutty Sark a squarer stern with less tumblehome. The broader stern increased the buoyancy of the ship's stern, making it lift more in heavy seas so it was less likely that waves would break over the stern, and over the helmsman at the wheel. The square bilge was carried forward through the centre of the ship.[8][10] Cutty Sark was given masts that followed the design of The Tweed, with similar good rake and the foremast on both placed further aft than usual.[11]
A contract for Cutty Sark's construction was signed on 1 February 1869 with the firm of Scott & Linton, which had only been formed in May 1868. Their shipyard was at Dumbarton on the River Leven on a site previously occupied by shipbuilders William Denny & Brothers. The contract required the ship to be completed within six months at a contracted price of £17 per ton and maximum weight of 950 tons. This was a highly competitive price for an experimental, state-of-the-art vessel, and for a customer requiring the highest standards. Payment would be made in seven instalments as the ship progressed, but with a penalty of £5 for every day the ship was late. The ship was to be built to Lloyd's A1 standard and her construction was supervised on behalf of Willis by Captain George Moodie, who would command her when completed. Construction delays occurred when the Lloyd's inspectors required additional strengthening in the ship.[12]
Work on the ship was suspended when Scott and Linton ran out of money to continue. Rather than simply liquidate the company, an arrangement was made for Denny's to take over the contract and complete the ship, which was finally launched on 22 November 1869 by Captain Moodie's wife. The ship was moved to Denny's yard to have her masts fitted, and then on 20 December towed downriver to Greenock to have her running rigging installed. In the event, completing the ship meant the company's creditors were owed even more money than when work had first been halted.[13]
Cutty Sark's length was 212 feet 5 inches (64.74 m), with a draft of 21 feet (6.40 m) and a deadweight of 921 tons.[14] Broadly, the parts of the ship visible above the waterline were constructed from East India teak, while American rock elm was used for the ship's bottom. The stem (15 in × 15 in (38 cm × 38 cm)) and sternpost (16.5 in × 15 in (42 cm × 38 cm)) were of teak while the rudder was of English oak. The keel was replaced in the 1920s with one constructed from 15 in (38 cm) pitch pine.[15] The deck was made of 3.5 in (8.9 cm) thick teak while the 'tween deck was 3 in (7.6 cm) yellow pine. The keel (16.5 in × 15 in (42 cm × 38 cm)) had on either side a garboard strake (11 in × 12 in (28 cm × 30 cm)) and then 6 in (15 cm) planking decreasing to 4.75 in (12.1 cm) at 1/5 the depth of the hold. Teak planking began at approximately the level of the bilge stringer. The hull was covered by Muntz metal sheeting up to the 18 ft (5.5 m) depth mark, and all the external timbers were secured by Muntz metal bolts to the internal iron frame.[15] The wrought-iron[16] frame was an innovation in shipbuilding. It consisted of frames (vertical), beams (horizontal) and cross bracing (diagonal members).[17]
The diagonally-braced iron frame made for a strong, rigid ship;[17] diagonal members prevent racking (shearing, where frame rectangles become parallelograms).[18] Less working and leaking of the hull meant less crew time spent pumping, allowing more time to be spent on changes of sail.[citation needed] The wrought-iron-framed hull also took up less cargo space than an all-wood hull would have done.[17] The Muntz metal sheeting reduced fouling of Cutty Sark's hull;[16] with a cleaner hull, she could sail faster.[19]

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2020-6-14 02:59
谢谢你的分享,非常不错啊,但咱现在很少有人有实力有精力造这种木头船呀,除非博物馆和真喜欢木船的
2020-8-10 18:23
活着,就是要创造奇迹!
看过视频,很喜欢这艘船。就是船大,要多人操作才行!
2021-3-7 21:28
2021-3-9 10:06
这个船是纵帆船,需要的人手并不多。 历史上最大的7桅纵帆船Thomas W. Lawson,在人数最多的时候才19人,而排水量高达1万4千吨。 而Cutty Sark是一艘全装帆船(以横帆为主),操纵横帆的时候需要人爬上横桁才能  详情 回复
2021-3-8 17:26
多备份点自动化设备,5-6个人绰绰有余  详情 回复
很漂亮的图
2021-3-8 11:32
泡泡鱼 发表于 2021-3-7 21:28
看过视频,很喜欢这艘船。就是船大,要多人操作才行!

多备份点自动化设备,5-6个人绰绰有余
2021-3-8 17:26
本帖最后由 begun 于 2021-3-9 10:15 编辑
泡泡鱼 发表于 2021-3-7 21:28
看过视频,很喜欢这艘船。就是船大,要多人操作才行!

这个船是纵帆船,需要的人手并不多。
历史上最大的7桅纵帆船Thomas W. Lawson(有蒸汽机辅助,但没推进器),在人数最多的时候才19人,而排水量高达1万4千吨。

而Cutty Sark是一艘全装帆船(以横帆为主),操纵横帆的时候需要人爬上横桁才能收放帆布,这样非常耗人手。它2100吨的排水量,多的时候有35人来伺候。想象一下,如果按尺寸放大到Thomas W. Lawson那么大,得上百人操纵。

不过这艘KWAI小货船上的人数相对并不少。。。当然大部分时间都是闲得发慌,只有卸货的时候才用得到他们。
现代可以用电力来辅助操纵,比古代方便很多。
2021-3-9 10:06
感谢分享!涨知识了~
2021-10-8 15:37
*Keep Calm and Carry On
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